Professor J,
Well, now I have the song, Let's Give 'Em Something to Talk About, stuck in my head. ;)
The overall tone of your original post made it seem that you thought the activity was harmless, or something close to.
It's very helpful to know that the minor testified to it being consensual.
There
are some jobs and positions that bring with them a presumed element of
trust from society. A teacher, a priest, a coach, or a doctor are people
to whom we often entrust young people. It's less disturbing somehow if
the offender is someone who the minor
simply knows. I doubt if this situation involved a neighbor it would be
getting the same amount of publicity. That's what makes cases involving
adults in those occupations seem more dangerous in the cultural psyche.
We feel that not just the minor's trust has been violated but our own,
as well.
Could it be that that's the root of what is
bothering you? People are reacting to something deep, but you seem to be
assuming that everyone's problem is based on some kind of gender bias
against females leftover from the Victorian Age. Even where I've been careful not to use a gender
distinction, you have presumed that it was the sole basis for my
objections as in this paragraph:
"Presumptions against
consent, as you seem to imply when you said that between a 22 year old and 14
year old there would be a “fine line between consent and coercion,” do harm in
my opinion, because they serve to reinforce the patronizing idea that girls are
silly, what they say can’t be taken seriously, they can’t be trusted to make
decisions, etc."
The gender roles of these two
matter little to me. In our city the teachers in these scenarios seem
just as often to be female and the (oh, I'm going to irritate you here
and say) victims, male. Doesn't matter. The same two things that
bother me about it --age/knowledge/experience and the adult being in a
trusted vocation--still apply. In my post I was careful to say "he (or
she)" and I thought I made it pretty clear that it was the age of the
participants and one of them being in a position of authority that were
the issues in my mind. Not sure where you got the idea that I think the
female mind is somehow inferior or less capable. But a 14 year old mind
of either gender? Absolutely. Again, barring the exceptional.
If I were the parent of the 14 year old in this situation it wouldn't have mattered to me if it were my son or my daughter. I'd have considered either of them to be at a disadvantage in this scenario. They'd still be the 14 year old student and it would still be the adult teacher.
Would I want the teacher to go to prison? Probably not, but I'd be working hard to see that they were encouraged to find another career path.
The
law protects minors from all kinds of things because there is a legal
assumption that they can be taken advantage of. In most cases you can't
sell a minor a car, for instance. While states recognize a 16 year old
is mature enough to drive a car, the law has doubts about whether they
have enough knowledge and experience to enter into legal contracts with
adults.
If we are now going to say that society has
coddled young adults to the point of them not being fully mature and
capable of making good decisions at 22 then should we also revisit the
minimum age for positions of responsibility? We seem to be in an age of
fluctuating maturity for a variety of reasons as you've pointed out.
So
while we are discussing this the Huff Post has obliged us by featuring
similar stories this week. The first one does me a favor and takes
gender out of the issue completely in a story about a 28 year old
teacher and 11 year old student. It involves some other behaviors that
are troubling, but since the child kept the communication secret the
relationship sounds "consensual." It's unclear from the article if there
was a physical relationship, but for the sake of this discussion let's
assume there was. Any crime here in your opinion? The child doesn't
sound threatened or coerced, but I'd say this woman shouldn't be given a
teaching position anywhere near minors.
Teacher Sent Thousands of Texts to Student Expressing "Deep Love"
This one isn't as relatable since there's no position of authority and it takes place a party:
Woman Flashed Boys at Bat Mitzvah, Performed Sex Act of 15 Year Old
And for something related barely at all, but what could quite possibly be the best headline ever, read this:
Huffington Post /2015/03/31/
You can't make this stuff up. ;)
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